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Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.03 22:35:00 - [1] Edited by: Xen Gin on 03/10/2009 22:39:47 I thought it was OK, the characters for me are a let down, Eli and Rush are ok, everyone else is meh, and I can do without the 10 minutes of crying, and a sex scene 17 minutes in. The style is ok and the CGI is superb, Stargate boundary pushing as usual. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.04 16:34:00 - [2] Originally by: MaxxOmega And in any case, most new tv premiere shows are nothing spectacular. Nothing more than character set up or some few expendables killed off. I looked back at the entire first season of Star Trek TNG and it was laughable compared to later years... But should a new series of Stargate be as laughable when its on? SG-1 Children of the Gods was better than this, and they had even more of an adventure doing it. As for ST: TNG, DS9 or Voyager pilots were never as laughable as TNG. Something learnt maybe? ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.05 05:06:00 - [3] Originally by: goodby4u Well if those doors were constructed anything like the doors in atlantis, they would be pretty easy to open because the ones in atlantis only took a single, or two people to open or close. Ofcourse these are bigger but you have an army of useless people standing in the hall way and like I said all the pulleys and levers you will ever wish to have. How about this idea, you take a decent sized metal plate and place it on the place where the shield is stopping the air from escaping, then find a way to secure it over the place where air was originally escaping, then drop the shield. I mean these are suppose to be uber smart people here, they should come up with better ideas then"hey lets just throw people at it until it closes". So many plot holes, not enough buses available! ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.05 15:03:00 - [4] I wonder if the Ancients use the Three Sea Shells system!? ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.09 13:56:00 - [5] Edited by: Xen Gin on 09/10/2009 13:55:54 I call dibs on the SG:U 'team'? finding a planet populated by dinosaur like creatures! ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.10 16:14:00 - [6] God that was boring. What a boring episode, yet more whining on how she lost her Dad, and OH NO her mother is a personal friend of the president, and she's threatening to go public? Come on, why are these people being told? It's like the second worst kept secret next to Area 51. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.10 17:36:00 - [7] Originally by: Jacob Mei Originally by: Xen Gin God that was boring. What a boring episode, yet more whining on how she lost her Dad, and OH NO her mother is a personal friend of the president, and she's threatening to go public? Come on, why are these people being told? It's like the second worst kept secret next to Area 51. Her mom will likely end up dead. In previous episodes from other shows anyone who found out about the stargate was either bought to keep their silence in some form or met an untimely end. I can't see how they can (attempt to) drag this on for 4 to 5 years! ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.11 22:59:00 - [8] Originally by: baltec1 It has what the other stargates lacked, a good story and good acting. Seriously? If this is what passes as a good story (the general plot is fine) and good acting for you, I believe there is a production of Macbeth as acted by the Class of 8F at your local school you may enjoy watching week after week. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.12 01:00:00 - [9] Edited by: Xen Gin on 12/10/2009 01:02:19 Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Xen Gin Originally by: baltec1 It has what the other stargates lacked, a good story and good acting. Seriously? If this is what passes as a good story (the general plot is fine) and good acting for you, I believe there is a production of Macbeth as acted by the Class of 8F at your local school you may enjoy watching week after week. Yes its great because its not the cheesy crap that was SG1 where the hero would find the mirical cure/fix in under an hour and you must watch the next week to follow the story as it progresses rather than tune in for a new story every week that has no impact upon the characters. Two episodes in and they still need to fix the air scrubbers, their only medical expert is a stressed combat medic and their supplies consist of power bars, lined paper and a box of toilet paper. Most importantly though is that they finaly got rid of those damn P90s. Losing the P90's is unforgivable, and all that toilet paper will be used up pretty quickly if the don't stop being emo. The actors and characters (bar Eli and Rush) are all wrong, its horribly written. These are the best of the best and 12 hours in the SG personal are kicking each other over, stealing rations and, pointing guns at unarmed people and what not. It's just drama for the sake of drama, nothing else. We don't need to see 10 minutes of crying girl crying. And just because the Air condition last for three episodes, probably says what kinda stuff they are going to get into, nothing but repairs and crying drawn out over 24 episodes. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.12 15:33:00 - [10] Edited by: Xen Gin on 12/10/2009 15:38:12 Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Sadly this. It could end up having consistency and steady development, but that is in no way guaranteed yet. I still think they need to tone down the forced drama and whinage. At the bare minimum they need to reduce the time they use to portray it. I miss the time, when people took hard and potentially deadly situations as an adventure too. Most people shouldn't do this, but there are people that enjoy those dangerous, interesting and challenging situations. Not to mention more people who would actually love working in space and visiting new worlds. I don't think it would be much of a strech, if few such people would end up working for such an experimental and high risk place like stargate control. This would make sure, that I could pretend to be watching an exciting scifi show, instead of a standard survival drama. The survival struggle should remain a theme and used as a reason for some conflict and plot points, but not the main focus of the show. It can carry a few episodes on its own now and then, but just isn't enough in a scifi series for me. I agree with Dest. It's just too much drama (and it's drama for the sake of drama!) and emo-age. I will still be watching it to see where it goes, but I have pretty low hopes for where it may end up at. And yes I do realise it's an extended premier over three episodes, it still doesn't mean we like 10minutes of crying and boo-whooing per episode! Next weeks SPOILER [color=#FFFFFF]It seems that its a power failure next week, maybe the week after there is a sewage breakdown, the week after the cigarette smoke detectors break![/color] ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.17 13:10:00 - [11] A much better episode finally, and with less whining! ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.21 13:28:00 - [12] Originally by: ReaperOfSly I have to wonder how many of the negative opinions are from people disappointed that it isn't more like SG1 or SGA? I never really followed either that closely (never watched the Auri arc, and watched the rest in what was probably the wrong order), so I don't have any idea what Stargate should be. From that point of view, I'm actually rather enjoying it. Except the communication stones. They really need to put those stones out of an airlock because they're a clumsy plot device which ruins the whole "we're all alone out here" atmosphere. Instead of sending that pathetic Valker guy to help Rush, why didn't someone body-swap with Sam Carter or other similarly qualified expert back on Earth? They'd have got it fixed in no time at all. So, other than the blue stones, I like the series so far. Yes that is just one of the many issues. As to your first point, probably, I have every SG1/A INDIVIDUAL (ie not the Box sets) DVD from each series, and the extra DVD's like the movies and such. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.21 20:46:00 - [13] Originally by: Clone 1 I agree, you do need space battles, but battles have less impact when you really dont care about the cast. You need build up, and for me I am happy with the way SGU is going and is far far better than SGA, even if it is heavily influenced by BSG. Three episodes of whining and crying, one that was passable, and you're saying it's better than SG-A!? I bet you may have been one of those why don't you "see and wait" crowd who were putting down SGU's detractors. Well, it's here, and I don't think it's "far far better" than SGA, my opinion is that at the moment from what I've seen its far far worse. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.25 12:09:00 - [14] Edited by: Xen Gin on 25/10/2009 12:09:51 Originally by: Lance Fighter I want to know what shipyard BUILT the thing... Surely, even thousands of years later, it could still be useful somehow. Look at atlantis.. Also, it kinda makes me wonder about a few things - The ship ran out of power.. why were they still standing upright? From the few looks i get, it seems like they are oriented perpendicular to the line of acceleration, so didnt they kinda think of that? I don't think there are (space) ship yard built, the Goauld used gravity powered yards and pyramids, even earths first Starship, the Prometheus was built under ground. The tech probably just skipped that phase. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.27 18:04:00 - [15] Originally by: Gaborelle the ship has been flying for hundreds of thousands of years the ancients only learned how to accend somewhere in the last ten thousand years The opening scene of Stargate Atlantis, is the City with the caption, "Several Million Years ago", and since the creators stated the Ship is pre-Atlantean (that's why the gate is a basic version!), therefore the ship is substantially older than hundreds of thousands of years. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.28 15:34:00 - [16] Originally by: Jacob Mei Originally by: F'nog Even though we predicted 90% of it here well beforehand, I actually liked it - that could just be because I assumed it wouldn't be good. I was a bit surprised that they added another problem at the end, with the shuttle. It was a refreshing change that they sort of acknowledged that seasoned SG and sci-fi vets would know the whole sun bit was a false flag. I haven't done the math on the slingshot, but it could have just been that the Ancients were so far advanced that they wouldn't have thought of doing such a maneuver with the shuttle - sort of how Thor needed Carter to solve the Replicator problem. While not much really happened, it did once again set up a lot of possibilities. I agree that the Rush bit was overdone. He could have simply said, "I figured there was a reason it was heading towards the star, and was rather hopeful it would work out." Or something like that. Maybe that would be too Baltaresque. The being too far advanced is a good point but then again the destiny did a similar move that only slowed them down (the opposite effect). What's possible though is the destiny computer houses some sort of AI, which would explain why when Rush inputs a request or something along those lines Destiny responds where as the shuttles lack such a capability. In other words the shuttle needs the pilot to know what they are doing where as Destiny is more "user friendly". I'd imagine any advanced basic shuttle computer would have certain manoeuvres built into it, and since Eli worked out the maths in a little under 10 seconds (probably without knowing accurate gravimetric readings of the planet BTW) the shuttle should easily have done the calculations. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.28 17:08:00 - [17] Edited by: Xen Gin on 28/10/2009 17:10:32 Originally by: Jacob Mei I dont recall the exact scene but he was on the destiny so wouldnt it be logical to assume he was using the destinys computer to do the calculations? Another thing to consider is ancient technology uses crystal based computers as opposed to magnetic and based on the previous two shows size, color and shape play a factor in how the crystal works in relation to the computer or system (case in point, atlantis had the only control crystal capable of dialing to earth). My point to this is that size matters in terms of computing power for ancient computers and the shuttle likely lacks the size to house a computer of needed size for stuff other than basic commands. That said it would be logical to assume some sort of communication between the shuttle and destiny can occur but because they havent unlocked all of destiny's systems such a system may be inactive. But yet, those are outrageous assumptions to make. An advanced spaceships shuttle not big enough to house the computers of NASA in 1968-9 maybe, but what you said, just nonsense. Wait he's doing the calculations on destiny's computer? but they don't have access? but they do have access, Rush just unlocked comms between the Destiny and Shuttle, but they don't have access? (They also sent the path to the shuttle from destiny anyway, showing that the shuttle did have a data connection with the ship!) See nonsense. The fact is, anybody who builds an advanced computer for an advanced shuttle would include basic manoeuvres like using a planet to build up speed, almost every unmanned space craft sent to other planets has had to use slingshot manoeuvres, and any spaceship with an advanced enough computer would have to have this installed. Taking along math boy and getting him to update calculations every 10 seconds would be the death of a ship. Plot holes big enough to fly that big arse shuttle through. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.28 20:07:00 - [18] Edited by: Xen Gin on 28/10/2009 20:16:01 Edited by: Xen Gin on 28/10/2009 20:06:56 Originally by: Jacob Mei It is logical to assume that these ships transmit the information back to destiny and destiny (ie destiny functions as a huge server). Information needed for the slingshot maneuver would likely have been sent to destiny by these ships (which would explain how destiny was able to pull off the ôreverse slingshotö it did) and thus Eli may have simply requested the proper information. Granted this is making several assumptions but I would argue these are logical ones. Why the shuttle didnÆt have the information: Lets pretend we are ancients for a minute. You have sent unmanned ships out to explore the universe, take down info, and seed stargates. You build destiny to then go follow those ships, receive that information and generally watch out for itself while uninhabited (this means keeping track of any information that may be needed for the ships survival as well as the survival of the crew later on). It does not make sense to put on the shuttle a computer advanced enough to store that information when the destiny can transmit the exact numbers to it. You may argue that a sling shot is relatively easy to do but keep in mind that the shuttle arrived at the exact spot it needed to be (generally lined up with destiny) instead of being plus or minus 30 degrees. Why didnÆt the shuttle automatically make the maneuver? Plot hole, the shuttle wasnÆt receiving the uplink automatically, it was never meant to be automatic, take your pick it made for in the writers mind good tv drama. If we want to talk about plot holes here are a few (at least until their answered): Stargates draw their power from the dialing gate then what is the point of the ship having to be within range of a gate to begin with? If the ships sheilds can survive litterally entering a sun then why is there even hull damage to begin with? Surely if the ships shields are that powerful then anything man made wouldnt be able to breach them. Knowledge of every system the seeder planets and Destiny ever visited isn't needed, its a complex mathematical formula based on current sensory readings of a planet. You don't need some giant galactic computer to store that crap on a shuttle. And lets not forget, he would have to have worked out that path, the computer written in ancient, using the ancient base 6 maths that they used, no doubt they weren't able to change the language to 'English'. Would you trust his 10 second math, calculated in a different base system, in another language that he only had a basic understanding of? I sure as hell wouldn't. So to say he pulled that out within 10 seconds, is just pure fantasy. Had he however just said to the computer to calculate the flight path for the shuttle that is reasonable. But he would have done none of the math, and Eli calling him self math boy is pretty false. However you are right that those plot holes are there too. The shielding is probably THE largest one so far. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.28 21:39:00 - [19] Originally by: Jacob Mei I think we need to agree to disagree on this as there are just too many possibilities. Though in regards to his self appointed nick name, if I recall he claimed that after having completed the proof. Eli's importance seems more to be the fact that he can adapt to the situation quickly, he's inquizative, case in point while the scientists were mooping about the MIT drop out was working on the air problem in the second or third episode. Yeah, I do agree with you. There are many possibilities. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.29 15:16:00 - [20] Edited by: Xen Gin on 29/10/2009 15:16:42 Originally by: Danton Marcellus So I re-watched SG:A and most of it still worked, much better than any Star Trek anyways. Now I'm looking to give SG:1 another chance but last time around I found it to be an intolerable suckfest. I think it's partially me not being able to stand most the cast. Is there bits and pieces I might as well skip? What are the strengths of this series? I too am watching Atlantis through again, but my dvds seem to be error filled with skips and freezes even though they are pristine. They played through fine the first time when I bought them, but now on different DVD players they are preventing me from watching them again. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.10.31 04:03:00 - [21] Edited by: Xen Gin on 31/10/2009 04:02:55 Originally by: Khemul Zula And in true sci-fi tradition, the shields do nothing to prevent computer consoles from randomly exploding (you'd think people in the future would figure out a fix for this type of thing). You'd think somebody would stop tying in every console to the shields and hull. Maybe if they only had some sort of localised power surge protector for a certain area to stop the random overload of consoles, like my house has. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.11.03 22:42:00 - [22] Originally by: Jacob Mei Before this thread fades away I thought this would be interesting: Source: Gateworld.net 2.1 average household rating 2.85 million total viewers (includes Live + 7 Days DVR) 1.5 million adults ages 18-49 1.7 million ages 25-54 over the last season of Atlantis: 59 % increase ages 18-34 41 % increase 18-49 33% increase 25-54 36% in total viewers SyFy considers this their best October ever with: 2.1 avg Ghost hunters 1.7 avg Destination Truth 1.8 avg premiere of Sanctuary Universe is currently considered the networks second highest rated show behind Ghost Hunters (about 3 million viewers before DVR). ------------------------------------------- My personal opinion is that SGU isnt that good but it is holding some interest. Considering its currently occupying the number 2 slot for most watched show I would find it hard to believe if the show isnt renewed for another season. Hopefully, if they are done shooting for season 1 then season 2 we will see the needed character changes. Well, I work on a farm where we sell three types of manure. Surprisingly our horse manure is our best rated manure, then pig manure, then sheep. But I just can't see why I'm not selling as much manure as the next farm over!? I know they got 20 types of manure and are producing high quality manure... So anyway, Syfy (Don't know why, but the new branding reminds me of syphilis rather than science fiction!) don't have anything really good on and still SGU is only second. Is it too early to get in a 7of9 Jeri Ryan like character to put a bounce in the ratings. Got to compete with Ghost Hunters you know! ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.11.05 00:03:00 - [23] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Originally by: Novantco This series needs a good kick up the arse. The last episode with the crazy swarm that drinks all your waterz was pretty entertaining, but the rest have been complete boring drivel. I miss the humour and lulz from SG1. Sci-Fi that takes it self too seriously is an automatic fail imo. That's you, Mars Attacks might be more up your alley. I for one respect the work of people who doesn't just goof it out 'cause they cannot hack it delivering an interesting plot. Just checked some old SG-1, why, when and again why did they do away with the freezing experienced by gate travelers? I don't mind serious sci-fi, it's just when it is unimaginative and badly written that, it becomes seriously stupid. I think they said the freezing compression happened because the gate was unused and they had to tweak the Earth dialing computer. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.11.14 15:40:00 - [24] Originally by: Xtreem actually liked the latest episode, was a nice take on things, soon as Chloe died I called the ending though, wondering if it carries on next episode, or they leave it as an assumed ending. I think they left it as an assumed ending. But this was a much much better episode than any of the others combined. That glimmer of hope is still alive. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.11.16 17:01:00 - [25] Edited by: Xen Gin on 16/11/2009 17:01:16 Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Danton Marcellus As for the creepy crawlers, same trap as in Pitch Black, what do they live on? Throwing an apex predator into the mix without an eco system makes for great action but only once I'd like to see someone having put some thought into it and give us a glimpse of these beasts without their current human diet. Unlike Pitch Black, there was a jungle with plenty of flora and fauna running around. Which we didn't see, I think was his point. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.12.01 18:00:00 - [26] Flashforward aired in the UK and Aus before the US, but mid-season breaks are for chumps, bi-monthly breaks are for Fox. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.12.02 14:32:00 - [27] Originally by: Mr Reeth Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker one thing i have learned watching stargate, Earth ships post asgard exit are a cross between Caldari and Amarr. they use missiles, rails and powerful beam weapons and also have kickass shields. i guess the Daedalus Class has a bonus to beam weapons though cause those lasers kick ass. Stupid humans haven't learned that split weapon systems suck. Yeah, what idiots for having backup weapons and such! ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2009.12.05 22:12:00 - [28] Edited by: Xen Gin on 05/12/2009 22:13:21 Originally by: ReaperOfSly The spaceship won't fly, it had holes in it. The best he can hope for is to salvage a gate-dialling device from it. Yeah, I think that's the most likely. But don't forget Eli and Young still have the video of Rush taking the gun, so Young will still have some leverage when Rush shows back up. ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##

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